Marty
Foley, publisher of ProfitInfo Email Newsletter, interviews Internet marketing guru Corey
Rudl. For many savvy online entrepreneurs, Corey needs no introduction.
[Marty]: Corey, as one who has been
extremely successful as an online marketer, please tell us how you got started using the
Internet as a marketing tool.
[Corey]: I started marketing online in the fall of
1994. It was quite a fluke. In my course, I explain that we published my book, "Car
Secrets Revealed", and started selling it offline. The results were pathetic. We
thought we had a winning formula and it was barely breaking even. I spent about $20,000
offline trying to promote it... and it flopped.
I took the advice of a friend that was setting up
an automotive site on the net and he helped me get a very simple web page online. I saw a
few sales trickle in and then took more interest in it, promoting the book online in my
spare time.
[Marty]: What are some of the
online ventures you are involved in?
[Corey]: I own four different businesses that now
generate over $2,600,000 in online sales every year. I have interests in many other online
projects, as I have done work for clients for a portion of the profits I generate. I also
have a clientele base that hires me for online business advice at $320 per hour.
[Marty]: Your book "Car
Secrets Revealed" has done very well for you online. Can you give some details on it?
[Corey]: Car Secrets Revealed was my first success
on the net. Within 9 months of truly starting to promote it heavily, it became the #1 best
selling car book online (using the unique promotional techniques I teach). It generated
over $140,000 in net profit in those months. To this day (almost 3 years later), it is
still the #1 best selling car book on the Internet.
The site is at http://www.igs.net/carsecrets/ if
you want to check it out. Everything I put on the page and everything I say is there for a
reason... We have tried many different web page designs and concepts, and this one works
the best (I explain why in my Internet Marketing course at:
http://www.marketingtips.com
I can't
explain it here, as it would fill up about 20 pages to cover just the details on that
topic alone).
[Marty]: You were recently on the
Maury Povich TV show in connection with your businesses. Can you recap for those of us
that missed it?
[Corey]: There is not much to say. Basically,
because of my exposure on the Internet and having the #1 best selling car book online,
they found me through the net and invited me to appear on the show as their "car
expert" to explain a few tips and secrets to their viewing audience on car buying and
the shams and scams with car repairs. It was a good interview, but what a long flight
back... 10 hours on a plane. Whew!
[Marty]: How long did it take your
first online venture to start making a profit?
[Corey]: The first month the sales trickled in, so
I technically made a profit within 30 days... but nothing to live off of. Since I was one
of the first group of commercial businesses online... there was a lot of "trying
everything", so it took me almost 18 months before I started to see a full-time
income. I spent literally 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week trying different techniques,
copy, and ideas online. Now that I know most every trick and tip there is, I can literally
take almost any business online and make it turn a very healthy profit in a few months.
As more and more people got online, many of the
standard marketing techniques were getting overused and becoming ineffective... so I
developed "twists" to most of them to ensure they still made a profit when
everyone was using the "regular" approaches to online marketing. The results:
the techniques I use to market online are very unique.
[Marty]: How did you learn about
what it takes to succeed?
[Corey]: At first a lot of trial and error. I took
a lot of the concepts and ideas I got from the very expensive seminars I used to attend
and material I bought (I was a Jay Abraham, Gary Halbert, Mike Enlow and Ted Nicholas fan,
and most of their seminars were $7000 and up.) I took those ideas - and with a little
ingenuity and creativity - adapted them to the net (while in the midst of developing my
own winning formulas for online success). I came up with formulas that work like wildfire
online.
[Marty]: I recognize the names of
those other well-known direct marketers that you have learned from. It's apparent that
your formulas work. Which avenues are paying off the best for you?
[Corey]: I have never had an online business that
*has not* made a very healthy profit. As I mentioned, my four online businesses combined
now generate over $5,200,000 in sales online per year! And the beauty of it is that I
started it myself as a one-man operation. I now have had to hire five employees to take
care of the paper work and customer service... but have you ever heard of a retail
business that has 5.2 million dollars in sales with only a few employees? No! They have at
least 15-20 employees. That is the beauty of the net: you can automate everything so your
overhead is incredibly low.
[Marty]: What specific types of
online tools are you using successfully?
[Corey]: That is a very difficult question to
answer, because there is no one tool that is responsible for making me a fortune online.
My techniques show you how to generate multiple
small streams of income, and then automate those streams of income so you can move to the
next. Let me explain...
I would teach you a marketing technique that will
make you $1000 a month in net profit. You then automate that so it generates that $1000
whether you are there or not. You then move on to the next marketing technique, and it
makes you $1500 a month. And once that is in place (which takes you about 2-3 weeks), you
automated it and move on the next week, and so on.
The concept here is that you are making small
streams of income from many different directions (all of which are automated)... but if
you add up those streams of income you are looking at $10,000 to $15,000 a month in net
profit, which is over $100,000 a year. The best part is that if one technique fails
because something on the net changes, you don't have to worry; you still have other
streams of income that are making you money every month.
[Marty]: Do you do all of your
business online, or do your online marketing efforts supplement your off-line business
efforts?
[Corey]: 100% online. I am a specialist at online
sales and marketing. I have become one of the most respected online marketers on the
Internet... and for good reason: I can prove my successes. If someone asks me to help them
with their magazine advertising, I simply tell them that there are better people than me
out there for offline marketing and they should see them instead. I do what I do best...
and that is online marketing, so I concentrate *all* my efforts on that!
[Marty]: What mistakes have you
made?
[Corey]: There are so many, I would fill up your
entire newsletter listing them. Let me just say that I have wasted hundreds of thousands
of dollars trying techniques that did not work (but from everyone I learned something very
important). But that is the "price of education" as I say.
[Marty]: What major mistakes do you
see other Internet entrepreneurs make?
[Corey]: There are a lot of them and I discuss them
in great detail in the course, but I will briefly mention a few here.
Having an ineffective web site that does not turn
visitors into sales. This is a very tricky thing to do (that most people do not
understand), and I devote a lot of time in my course in how to make a web site profitable.
Putting all your eggs in one basket. Trying one
technique and thinking it will make you a fortune. You need to diversify your marketing
efforts into different promotions to see which ones pull the most net profit, and then
concentrate on those.
Having a poor "sales process" in the
marketing campaign. That is the manner in which you interest the client into coming to
your site, then lead him into a good rapport with yourself, and then - and only then -
asking for the order. Most people break the link at some point and lose the sale. That is
why most sites only see one sale out of every 200-400 visitors (and some even worse).
[Marty]: Are there any other tips
or suggestions you would like to give others that want to profit from the Internet?
[Corey]: Research, research, research....
Read/study everything you can on online marketing and learn about it before you jump in.
For example, I hear stories every day about people that "heard" bulk emailing
was very profitable. They may spend $1000 on the different software, only to find out they
were doing it very ineffectively (for example, indiscriminately spamming, rather than
ethically using bulk opt-in email) and don't make a single cent.
Then there are other stories of online success with
MLM... people spend months using the wrong techniques and end up not making a penny. The
list just goes on and on.
Make sure you understand what you are getting into
with any business online so that your first attempt will be your success!
[Marty]: I agree, Corey. Too
many are trying to "reinvent the wheel" instead of learning how others before
them have achieved success. I like how Benjamin Franklin put it, when he said: "An
investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." Thanks for letting me
interview you, Corey.. |